Posts Tagged ‘RDS8000’

Several Receivers for RDS8000 and SD-10G

January 11, 2010

Many Airtronics users have wondered if there are other receivers available for the RDS8000 and SD-10G besides the stock receivers?

Here’s a list:

There is an 8, a 7 and a 6 channel available. All 3 are full range and the 6ch is quite small and affordable
Click the links:

There is also an affordable lightweight park flyer receiver. With the case off it is only 4 grams or so making it very nice for indoor planes, small helis, etc.


Not Enough Time In A Day

October 21, 2009

I’m really excited about the Fly-In this weekend in Vegas, but a little dissappointed too… B17 is NOT finished. Work, responsibility, etc just got in the way! I’m Bummed. I want to fly it SO bad, but I don’t want to rush it either. Servos are in, retracts are in, surfaces are all hinged and linked, all 4 motors are in, RX battery is in. Some of the windows are glued.

Still to do:

Fit/Mount Flight Batteries

Run Servo Extensions

Install Retract Control Valve

Test Retracts

Modify Cockpit canopy assembly so that it is removable to access switch, fill valve, charge jack.

Plug Hole in Cowls where they were ground out for the Engine Installation section in the manual. We’re going electric so we don’t need those holes anymore! This requires a fair amount of work as well as paint matching and painting.

Run up motors, make final prop choices.

Install Receiver

Final complete system Check

Range Test

Test Fly

That’s more than I’m going to do in a day.

Anyway, this weekend we’ll still be flying a VAN-Load of planes…

1. Squall. We’ll have at least 2 Squalls, maybe 3 or 4. I’m bringing two: 1 with 3 cell and 1 with 4 cell with Thrust Vector. Should be fun.

2. Model Tech Super Fli Prototype. 84″ Span, 10S pack. It’s a fun, good looking, scale aircraft. And since Phil Kraft designed the Full-Scale, that makes it VERY cool. For those who haven’t seen one, it looks a little like a mono-wing Pitts.

3. Phase 3 Mini Mustang. Just like the Mini Spitfire, We’re releasing a Mini Mustang and it will be FUN to get this little guy out there. It’s fast!

4. Speaking of Fast.. We’ll be flying the Mini Mach Racer from Model Tech. Weight is 16 oz ready to fly, thrust is 16 ounces at full throttle. That’s some fun power on a little tiny plane!

5. BH Models 46 Size Gilmore Red Lion Racer. We’re running a 4120 KMS motor. Has a hatch in the bottom for battery access.

Will be flying, of course, with the SD-10G and the RDS8000. So, we’ll have radios out there to show, answer questions, etc. If you have any questions, etc. about Airtronics, drop by!  We’ll show you all the new ATX Digi’s coming out too! (Shhh it’s kinda’ a secret! Well, maybe not anymore!)

Mike B. and Mark S. will be there too in the HP Tent and they’re bringing Squalls too I think. So maybe we’ll have 4?

So, if you’re in Vegas this weekend and want to check out these planes, stop by! Bill Bennet TOC field. Sat and Sun!

See you there!


Model Tech 3Demon

July 7, 2009

This past weekend, Mike Did NOT go flying, but Russ did! So, from Russ Greaves here in the CS, dept here is the RussGoesFlying Report on the 3Demon:

Russ's 3Demon with the RDS8000 Radio

Russ's 3Demon with the RDS8000 Radio

This 3Demon has been flying for about 2 years now. It is powered with a KMS Quantum 4120/05 motor with a Castle ESC and an Impulse 4 cell, 4000mAh battery. Prop is an APC 13×5

It has Hitec servos in it and a Airtronics RDS8000.  EDIT: Russ Tells me that I am thinking of an earlier prototype with Hitec Servos. This 3Demon that he has been flying has the Airtronics Digital 94761z Metal Gear Micro servos in it. The receiver was changed to the new 7 channel 2.4GHz Airtronics receiver that just arrived into stock. It’s good to get 1st hand flying experience on the latest products. As expected, the receiver worked flawlessly. The antenna extensions make it easy to get the antennas away from servo wires. As you can see in the pictures, one of the antennas is mounted vertically up into the canopy, thus it is up and away from all the power wires too. So, even though the 3Demon fuselage is small, the antennas are easily mounted away from the power system to maximize range.

The 3Demon is made for this electric motor and has the wood mount stand off included. It also has a nice battery access hatch through the canopy so there is no need to take apart the airplane to change the battery.

The airplane light, nimble, and easy to fly. It feels like an oversized parkflyer.

Photo Album

See Russ’s Video:

3Demon Video

If you have questions about the plane and/or setup, comment here at my blog or contact Russ directly

3Demon at Hobby People


July 3, 2009

Cheap when compared to 7ch rx’s from the “other big guys” and competitively prices to the discount “guy” with their announced but still not released equipment (you can all guess at who I’m talking about…) Airtronics has released and is IN STOCK on the new full range 7ch receiver.

Compatible with the RDS8000 and SD-10G, this receiver is smaller, lighter,and more affordable than the 8Ch ATX receiver and WAY more affordable than everyone else’s comparable receiver. 

Check it out!!!

RDS8000 in Sportsman Competition

June 11, 2009

I usually show a lot of sponsored guys, die-hard Airtronics guys, taking Airtronics to spectacular finishes here at Mike Goes Flying and at Team Airtronics.

But as my saying goes, we’re truly dedicated to the modeler. The hobbyist that is flying out there everyday in every facet.

This was a GREAT email sent to me by Joe Marri. Congratulations Joe!

Hi Mike,
Here are pictures of me at the season opener pattern meet in New Jersey.


Info about the pattern meet:

District 1 Spring Warmup
March 16, 2009
Jackson, NJ
Second Place, Sportsmans class.

Radio: Airtronics RDS-8000
Plane: GP Venus II
Servos: JR DS821
Engine: OS 120AX

Joe Marri
AMA 905174


The Long Awaited, Heavily Anticipated, Highly Appreciated Product The Competition Said We’d Never Make…

March 17, 2009

To all the Nay-Sayers, Pessimists, and Combatants of Airtronics…. “Phoooey… And SHAME ON YOU for spreading untrue rumors!”

IT’S SO COOOOOOOOL! Now Airtronics Stylus Owners, true fans, and modelers simply happy with the radio they know and love, the World-Famous Stylus, can have 2.4GHz!!!

I don’t care who you are, this is one cool mouse-trap! A 2-piece machined metal base for the antenna, a metal flex-tube

2.4GHz Module - Stylus

2.4GHz Module - Stylus

for the wire going from the module to the antenna, and a module with a very simple, yet protected bind button. The 2.4GHz even screws on easily, thus it’s easily removed in case of a mis-hap…

We’re shooting for Early May, the product is AWESOME, and the price is stunning. $99.99

And, the normal, fully functional 8 channel receiver that is used with this module (the receiver in the RDS8000 radio) that is full range, only weigh 20g or so, and has an every day price of $79.99! I say, “How can you go wrong?”


This is a unique and FANTASTIC radio (Stylus owners seem to be life-long fans) and now you can convert it to 2.4GHz.


Stylus 2.4GHz Module - Quality Through and Through

Stylus 2.4GHz Module - Quality Through and Through

Stylus 2.4GHz Metal Base

Stylus 2.4GHz Metal Base

Airtronics and Global at AMA Expo 2009

January 16, 2009


The AMA Expo (formerly AMA Convention, formerly IMS/Pasadena Show) wrapped up another great event last weekend in Ontario California. There were LOTS of attendees, many standing in very long lines to get in as soon as the show opened both on Friday and Saturday.  It is always great to have so many hobbyists at one place. There really are a lot of modelers in So. CA!


At Airtronics, we showed off the latest prototype of the SD-10G 10 channel 2.4GHz radio from Airtronics. This radio, now planned for an April release, attracted a HUGE amount of interest. Pilots collected as I walked through the features and as we discussed the radio’s features. As we get closer to April, we will be able to distribute more and more information, but here are the basics:

10 channels, 2.4GHz (full range of course!), backwards compatible with the RDS8000 receiver (as well as the 3 other 2.4GHz receivers in development for the RDS radio), and has advanced programming for Sailplanes, Aero, and Helicopters.

The initial negative feedback was that it is too shiny! This is not the final finish! The final finish will be more like the matte/textured chrome look on the Stylus. So, don’t worry, it will not blind you in the sun. So, while it might look a little bit like a Cylon from Battlestar Gallactica now, in production, it will be more “refined”.

What we like most about it is the ease of programming. The menu structure is easy to follow, the concepts behind how to setup the model are simple, yet powerful, and the list of features is LONG. From tons of curves, to triple rates, to assignable switches, to 5 flight modes, there’s a Lot to be happy about with this radio. 6 servo wings, twin engine aircraft, dual elevator servos, 4 servo ccpm swash plates, JR HELI 140 degree swash plates, 9 point throttle curves in all modes, name-able flight modes, etc will be no challenge for this radio as these things are all built in. And, you’ll even have the ability to share setups with other SD-10G users both at the field and even online at home!

I know I’m a tease because I’m not telling you more. I simply can’t just yet.  But truly, this porcupine with extra switches in places no other radio has, I think has the ability to satisify Many Many Many modelers in just about every facet of the hobby.

At the show over the weekend, we had Jack Albrecht, Craig Kaplan, Russ Greaves, and I all working our shifts at different times throughout the weekend. We all agree that this show was surprisingly well attended and that the overall excitement about the new 10channel was motivating and re-assuring. We’ve all put a lot of work into Airtronics and we’re glad to see the pilots respond so positively to our new “baby”! Truly we hope to have it out for Toledo and we’re looking forward to seeing you there!


Global Hobby Distributors (the whole-sale division of Hobby Shack) distributes 10’s of thousands of products to dealers throughout the country including of course our star: “Airtronics”. Of course, we had many other items that we exhibited as well.

From Ultrafly we showed of the Cirrus SR-22 and the Speark. Both are truly beautiful aircraft, the detail work is amazing, especially for aircraft in this more affordable electric category!

From Phase 3 we showed the Little Spitfire ParkFlyer and the new (on their way, we’ll have them by the end of the month!) P-40. The P-40 is the latest aircraft and it features some awesome accessories already built into the plane! It has mechanical retracts installed, a brushless motor, and a 3 cell lipo. All of the electronics are installed and ready to use. All the pilot ads is his transmitter and receiver. If you have an RDs8000 or plane on getting the new 10 channel, note that planes like this will be perfect for our new, very affordable 6 channel park flyer receiver or 7 channel economy receiver. You will soon  have more options for Airtronics which will be perfect for applications like these!

From Wattage we showed off the new Sea Vixen Ready to Fly. This plane is a nice stand-off-scale version of the British Sea Vixen Jet. This version is a pusher jet with a brushless motor and 3 cell lipo. It even includes a balancing DC charger. The plane bolts together in just a few hours and flies quite well with its brushless power system.

Kinda hidden in this picture, we also had on display a selection of KMS from the BIG motors that can replace a 45cc gas engine to the tiny little guys for the park flyers along with Impulse batteries. From EF Heli, we has the Cypher and the MASH. Both great helicopters in their class, the Cypher is simply the best 450 heli out of the box (I know, I’m opinionated).  Cyclic and pitch response is outstanding.

The show really blew some air up my skirt, I must say! I’m motivated in my job by the positive effects our products have on Modelers. And when I talk to so many who are so excited about the hobby, it simply spurs us on to work harder and to give you new, great products.

There’s a Ton of great stuff coming this year, I’m glad we were able to show some of it at AMA. But mostly, I was simply glad to see all of you there. Thank you all for coming by!


Unsupported Hype?

September 13, 2008

I read an ad in the Sept 2008 K-Factor. A competitor of Airtronics says in their 2.4GHz radio ad.. and I quote: “Since the competition has flooded the marketplace with unsupported claims and hype,…”

Unsupported hype? Well, maybe they’re not talking about Airtronics. Clearly other people sell 2.4GHz radios too. However, I thought to myself when I read this, do they really think we’d make a claim or post or comment without some sort of test first? Really?

Maybe this accusation is all hype? They didn’t put a name on it. They didn’t actually say what “claim” was actually hype. So, OK, maybe they are not talking about Airtronics. Fair enough.

So, I thought I’d just make a few claims here thare are simply the results of the test we ran that I was personally involved with…

1. The receivers work at 2.0Volts. Yes, that’s right, when your servos have stopped working and are just sitting there motionless because anything much below 3.1volts doesn’t make most servos work, the Airtronics RDS8000 receiver is still working. Why does that matter? That means it doesn’t “reset” or “brown out” or “turn off” if the voltage goes below 3.5volts.

2. The receiver works above boiling (212F). Yes, this seems to be a concern. Mostly because motors, esc, and those big power converters in the big planes can operate about 170F, there is now a concern about the receivers working at that 170F temp. The Airtronics receiver in the RDS8000 (and the receivers in the MX3 and M11 2.4GHz systems too) work above boiling. So, your battery could be so hot water would sizzle on it and you could put the RDS8000 receiver on top of it and it would still work.

3. The radio is full range. On the ground, I personally performed tests at over 4000 and the radio still worked properly. Signal was reliable, the servos worked smoothly, the receiver was getting all the little tidbits of information the way it is designed to. That’s line of sight in good conditions. Not perfect conditions, but good (there were some high lines around the area). Maybe that’s a better test anyway. Most people do not fly in “perfect conditions” do they? The point is that my ‘helper’ was so far away we had to use cell phones to communicate. We then tested it in the air in several models including sailplanes and in the air it is well over a mile. This is not hype, it is simply what we have done with the radio. And yes, we used maps and other devices to ensure that really was the distance. And we did it several times, with several radios, thus it was no fluke or 1-off non-repeatable result. This is not anecdotal. It is quantifiable and repeatable.

4. Solid link in a crowded environment. I have tested this. I posted my results. My REPEATED results. I posted about it months ago. I won’t repeat it (it’s a LONG explanation). But here’s more commentary: Recently had a pilot at a major heli fly-in. The 2.4GHz band was so crowded that some of the systems would not link. This pilot, Tyler, while sitting side by side with his friend’s “other brand” radio could turn on the RDS8000 and it worked while the other brand “would not link”. I personally do not recommend flying if it is that crowded and uncontrolled, but he did it anyway and the results were perfect. The Cypher flew great as always. Yeah, I’m plugging the Cypher too, but Tyler loves the thing. So, I thought I’d throw that in for good measure.

I think these are all the claims I’ve made. Well that and the radio really is FHSS. I’ve made them only because I personally ran these test and/or experienced these things myself. This is first hand knowledge. I stand behind each claim knowing that it is repeatable and not just anecdotal. And each claim I made is quantifiable, not just qualitative.

So, if any of you read this and/or see our ads and then see ads from other radio makers, remember that when you see a claim, we made it because it was tested and not some theory or “hype”. It’s not a “claim”, it’s what we did.

On a personal level, I’ve decided to not be offended. I’ve decided that they’re not talking about me or the Airtronics brand. They certainly didn’t say it was Airtronics so I assume they meant someone else. And they’d have to because our radio works as perscribed. I know, I shouldn’t get too personally involved. So, I won’t. But really shouldn’t they be careful about what they say too? Unsupported claims? Really? Definately NOT at Airtronics.

Anyway, please if you have questions about these or any other details about the Airtronics RDS8000, please don’t hesitate to ask.


Tyler’s EF Helicopter Cypher

July 14, 2008

This is a video one of our Airtronics pilots took. The heli is an EF Helicopter Cypher stock except for carbon 325 carbon blades. It’s owned by Tyler Lovell and being flown by Eric Brandenburg.

The Heli is awesome (obviously it is being truly rung out in the hands of an amazing pilot like Eric).

Tyler is a sponsored pilot. Eric is not sponsored by EF or Airtronics, but is simply flying this as a favor to Tyler.

Anyway, I think it’s AWESOME. Check out the cyclic response.


2.4GHz Antenna placement

July 10, 2008

The Airtronics RDS8000 has the receiver antennas placed at the end of extensions. Many people initially asked me why that was done. It was done to make it easier for the user to get proper antenna placement. Every installation is different and with the extensive use of carbon fiber in planes today, antenna placement and flexibility in that placement is important.

Today I ran across a post from RCUniverse that explained the antenna placement, why it’s important, and why the extensions on the antennas are a nice feature. It’s explained perfectly:

Interesting range tests with my new Airtronics 2.4 in a 2 meter pattern plane with lots of carbon fiber parts – Since I love this radio and have had good results in my 120 size balsa test plane I figured it was time to put it in my backup 2 meter pattern plane for testing. This plane has a fiberglass/carbon mat sandwich fuse with a full carbon fiber belly pan which houses the alum pipe. So we have a lot of carbon issues to deal with here and a good test of the 2.4 receiver installation procedures. I installed the receiver antennas as follows for test #1 – one antenna run vertical into the canopy area and one 90 degrees longitudinal along the fuse side. Stepped off 35 paces and in range check mode, plane sitting on the ground, we have solid results while rotated 360 degrees. Next I did a vertical test with the plane resting on the nose and rotated 360 in the vertical plane, everything was solid at 35 paces until the bottom of the plane faced me. At that point everything went gittery and had loss of most control. This was expected since the bottom of the plane is carbon and houses an alum tuned pipe. Next, I reoriented the antenna which was running along the fuse side to a position out horizontal into the foam wing. So now we have one vertical into the canopy and one running out 90 degrees into the foam wing panel. Retested range at 35 paces and could not find a dead spot in the setup !! Everything was solid in all aspects of orientation with the installation.
Conclusion – 2.4 requires more planning and testing before flying. Any plane with carbon fiber or large metal objects like tuned pipes need some close attention to installation and above all test your setup before flying. These are not official tests sanctioned by anyone, just my personal test to see what the actual limitations of antenna orientation are on a 2.4 setup in and around large carbon fiber material objects. Will hopefully test fly this weekend.

This post is Post 792 from this thread at RCU
I hope this helps everyone understand how to easily test for proper antenna placement and why it’s important, especially when the antenna is in a plane that uses carbon and metal in the airframe!